A, 28, in NC:
I have a coworker that I’ve been hanging out with for the last few months. I have not been interested in him beyond a platonic friendship partly because he is a coworker, and I don’t want my intimate life intermingled with my professional career. However, I have some warning bells around his behavior and choices that make me concerned that he may be taking more interest than I’d be interested in having.
I am perfectly happy with having a platonic friendship with him (He doesn’t make the mark for what I’m looking for in a partner), however, I’m not sure if he really has interest, or if this is just him opening up in a friendship (I have had platnoice friendships with males before, so I don’t believe every guy interacting w/ me is after me for more. I trust those platonic friendships really were platonic b/c most of them have entered or have been in relationships with others during our friendship).
However, I like to include/invite friends along to do things that I’ll be going to, often my invititations were just this aspect of my character, and not a reflection of romantic interest. I recognize that my innate personality may send the wrong message to guys sometimes, while in my mind we’re just platnoic friends. There have been times in my youth where I was either oblivious to someone liking me, or misinterpreted someone’s behavior as liking me, so I’m asking you for your opinion of the situation, and an opinion on how I could handle things if he does like me.
Background:
I met him when I started working at our company, and he has always come across to me as a pretty easy going, nice guy, so any non-work related discussions or chats have often been light hearted, usually me initiating, not out of interest in him, but rather because he was one of the few people I felt comfortable being casual with at work. And we all need breaks from work now and then, so he was a good person to not be serious with here and there. Interaction up until a few months back has been very sparse and sporadic, and never beyond these kinds of random, casual chats (very short chats usually, like a few words as I pass by).
Toward the end of last summer, I noticed some of the guys in the office would play some free online game, and I inquired about it, because I was looking for a fun game to play in my free time. So I started playing this game online, sometimes with this coworker and another coworker, and sometimes with random people if they weren’t online. For the most part, I played on my own or with the other coworker, and it wasn’t until maybe a month or so later, that I would play with this coworker more (often with other people, since there was a team vs team game).
I would say the game opened up the channel for us to interact more, as I had switched to a different department prior to that year. We were often playing with others online, and the chats were usually very superficial and game related. In Nov and Dec, we would grab meals together occasionally (around 1-2x week, after work, or after playing for some stretch on weekends). For Thanksgiving, I had plans to grab dinner with a group of friends that I see movies w/ on weekends, and we had an extra seat open for our dinner reservation, so I had invited him along (He had not been the first person I had invited, but he did accept and come with us). Our online chatting also started to increase outside of the game (usually talking about trip planning, see next paragraph)
Around this time I had jokingly asked him if he was taking his time off that year b/c the first yr I worked there, he chose not to take any of his remaining PTO b/c he “wouldn’t know what to do with himself.” At that time, he said he wasn’t sure, and I encouraged him to take it, and asked him if he liked traveling, b/c he should go somewhere and do something fun. To which he responded that he would like to travel and do something fun, but thought it was too much work to plan a trip (not sure if he had ever done so on his own before). So I *very* jokingly said, if he paid for half my costs, I’d plan something. I was actually rather surprised when he said ok, as I had not been serious, and didn’t think he’d take it serious either.
However, since he agreed, I figured I’d at least look into some ideas. After tossing around a few options, we agreed to go skiing one weekend for a couple nights (It was actually Xmas weekend b/c it was a 4 day weekend for us, and I wasn’t taking any time off, so that was the best time. When he mentioned he usually spent xmas w/ his parents, I told him we didn’t have to do that weekend, but he chose to rearrange his schedule w/ his parents to make the trip work. He hadn’t been skiing since high school and grew up doing it, so I think that’s part of why he really wanted to go skiing).
I was a bit nervous about the trip because I had not spent a lot of time with him prior to that point, nor did we really know each other much beyond work and the game. However, I was quite relieved that he respected privacy and space at our accomodations without me needing to draw any lines. For example, when I told him that the accomodation would have one bed but there would also be a couch in the sitting area, he said he would bring his sleeping bag without me otherwise prompting or suggesting sleeping separately, and he would also ask if he could go upstairs before going up (the only shower was upstairs where the bed was). Also, when we were discussing our eating in plans, it became clear to me that he hadn’t really planned around that, so I said if I cooked, he had clean up duty, and he agreed (and kept his part of the agreement well). In general, I thought he was very respectful and courteous during the trip, and the easy going, casual nature of our interactions persisted through the trip, as well. During the trip, I had let him know that I don’t like to mix work and personal much, but since we were in different departments, friends was ok. He jokingly said “I guess I shouldn’t transfer into your team then” in response.
Since that trip, we chat a little more on IM about things aside from the game and any trip planning (he wanted to go skiing again) and we grab a meal maybe abour 2x a week on avg (sometimes 3). His unprompted dialogue usually involves him talking about a personal project he is working on (the challenges he’s coming across or what progres he made) and random stuff his cat does. Occasionally other random topics come up (he brought up Invader Zim the other day for some reason). I don’t sense much hesitation from him to ping me to see if I want to grab a bite to eat, and if I mention some activity or food/restaurant, he’ll usually pick up on my interest and either voice interest or ask if I want to go.
There was one time I was displeased with something he did (in a conversation he had with another coworker, he positioned the responsibility on me to make a decision about this coworker joining us for an activity or not), and while I was asking him questions to understand the situation and conversation, he realized what he had done and apologized. I think he was genuinely apologetic, but the convesation was all through IM, so I didn’t have any other indicators to support the impression.
I could go into more details around more of our interactions if necessary, I’m just trying not to be too heavy in the details, but still highlight some things I’ve noticed.
Back to the Issue:
The things that have made me concerned that he might have more interest are:
- Prior to us hanging out more, he would usually get wings and drink w/ some coworkers on Tue and Thurs after work, but more recently, I noticed he’s willing to pass on those typical activities to grab a meal with me, if I’m up for something.
- Tonight, he asked me a food question that would have been strange for him to ask (I’m vegan, he’s not, and he asked a vegan food question), and when I asked him why he asked (after answering him), he responded with a hypothetical “well, if I ever invite you over for dinner” and that he wouldn’t have anything vegan that would be “very comprehensive.” The fact that he’s considering 1) inviting me over for a meal 2) preparing something for me really caught my attention.
- He recently actually invited me to go go karting with a few of our other coworkers after work. I had invited him to join my movie friends and I for meals or movies, but this was the first time he invited me to join him, aside from going to get wings and beer with the coworkers (which I don’t eat meat, nor drink so he knew I was unlikely to go).
If he really is developing interest, I want to be sensitive to it, and be able to handle it gracefully in a way where he understands that I’m happy being friends. While I’d be sad if he’d lose all interest in friendship once I make that clear, I’d rather he move on than have an insincere friendship. I’d just like some suggestions on how I can approach the situation and any conversation I might have.
One other item is that while I told him that I don’t like to mingle work and personal, I’m starting to get the impression his understanding of this may not be on the same page with what that means to me, or maybe he forgot. I tend to try to keep my personal life very private and away from work, and the thought of coworkers thinking my coworker friend and I are dating, b/c we’re hanging out, makes me uncomfortable for 2 reasons: 1) I don’t like people believing or thinking something untrue about me (unfortunately I can’t control that) b/c it is likely that they’ll talk and spread untrue things and 2) I don’t want it to become a professional/work issue on some level (professional conflict of interest with work responsibilities, etc). I’ve considered talking to him about it to make sure the item is cleared up so he knows where I stand, and there’s no ambiguity or future friction (like the earlier friction point when he mentioned some of our plans to a few coworkers), but since he was apologetic about that incident already, I didn’t want to kick dust up about it again (about a different point).
What are your impressions about his disposition, and how I might be able to handle these 2 situations/conversations?
VictorM:
I didn’t even have to read your whole submission (but I did read it all) to know the answer to your question.
Yes, he spends time with you because he finds you romantically appealing. By the way, that’s the same with all the other platonic friends you mentioned; they may not have acted on it or they may have thought you didn’t feel the same way, but guys have no need for female friendships. What guys do, and what your coworker is doing, is getting to know a girl they find romantically attractive under the guise of friendship because this way they can get to know her, enjoy her company, and be around an attractive girl without the responsibilities and obligations of a relationship.
By the way, telling him you don’t mix business and pleasure is not be a deterrent; it probably is more incentive because guys love a challenge and getting you to do something you didn’t want to do is enough of an incentive to keep trying. Besides, your dinner invitations and vacation together betray that message (from his point of view).
There are only two outcomes of this interaction: either you develop feelings for him and you become a couple or you don’t and the “friendship” fizzes and fades. Why? Because guys have no need for friendships with attractive females. If the fantasy of more (sex or romance) isn’t there, his interest will disappear.